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Re: NATLANG: Chinese parts of speech (or lack thereof)

From:John Cowan <jcowan@...>
Date:Monday, August 9, 2004, 17:59
Philippe Caquant scripsit:

> I can't help > thinking that there is an essential difference between > Chinese and Westerner ways of writing, though I can't really explain > which one. It just seems obvious, and it's something about concepts > (meaning).
No, it's about meaningful-syllable writing vs. writing with consonants and vowels. Here is a reduction (in the culinary sense) of the history of writing: The oldest known writing systems are based on meaningful-syllables; this has been invented three or four times independently (Sumerian, Chinese, Mayan for sure; Egyptian possibly). This system has repeatedly been simplified, especially when applied to new languages, to a purely syllabic system (one symbol for each syllable). Then, a radical new invention was created, just once: the abjad, in which all syllables starting with the same consonant are written with a single symbol. Phoenician is a pure example of this. The abjad developed in three directions: a) adding optional vowel points to distinguish the vowels (Hebrew, Arabic, Syriac); sometimes the vowel points become required (Yiddish). b) adding marks to each symbol to cover all vowels except one; these systems are called "abugidas", and include Ethiopic and all the various Indic and Southeast Asian systems. c) reusing some of the consonant symbols to represent vowels: this led to the Greek alphabet and the descendant alphabets Latin, Gothic, Armenian, Georgian, Coptic, Cyrillic. In the meantime, various other systems have been devised more or less independently: these turn out to always be syllabic. -- John Cowan jcowan@reutershealth.com www.reutershealth.com www.ccil.org/~cowan [R]eversing the apostolic precept to be all things to all men, I usually [before Darwin] defended the tenability of the received doctrines, when I had to do with the [evolution]ists; and stood up for the possibility of [evolution] among the orthodox -- thereby, no doubt, increasing an already current, but quite undeserved, reputation for needless combativeness. --T. H. Huxley

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Paul Bennett <paul-bennett@...>
Philippe Caquant <herodote92@...>