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Re: Dublex (was: Washing-machine words (was: Futurese, Chinese,

From:And Rosta <a-rosta@...>
Date:Monday, May 20, 2002, 22:55
Jeffrey:
> And Rosta <a-rosta@...> comunu: > > > How does the Dublex programme go about doing this? For example, are there > > different candidate sets of 400? -- E.g. you might start with 1000 and > > choose the 400 best. Or you might start with no upper number, but take > > words from English and replace them by compounds, recursively replacing > > the constituents of compounds by further compounds, until you end up > > with 400 'atomic' morphemes. And how is the usefulness of a word > > measured? > > Good questions! Basically, I first developed the 400-root word list by > studying the Universal Language Dictionary (the most comprehensive short > wordlist around, IMO), the Lojban gismu, Basic English and Esperanto. I > added a few words that I wanted to make sure were included so that I could > describe the language in the language (e.g., 'nomin' and 'verb' for "noun" > and "verb"). The initial 400 was my *subjective* take on the 400 roots that > would be most productive. > > While I have locked in the idea of using 400 roots,* I want the morpheme > list to evolve and improve over time. So I apply the concept of survival of > the fittest to the 400 morphemes. The weakest morphemes of the herd can be > killed off by new stronger morphemes. The strength of a morpheme equals > the number of two-compound words that can be formed from it. The strongest > compound would form 399 words with it as the modifying morpheme and 399 > words with it as the base morpheme for a strength of 798. In practice the > current average root has a strength of 24 right now, meaning each root forms > 24 two-word compounds (but the median strength is 14).
O a very good answer! So long as one can be bothered, these evolutionary methods are surely the best. BTW, I would say your theoretical maximum number of combos is 800, not 798. E.g. big-big might mean "gigantic". --And.

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Jeffrey Henning <jeffrey@...>