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Re: Beek

From:JS Bangs <jaspax@...>
Date:Monday, September 15, 2003, 18:35
Isidora Zamora sikyal:

> In it, the word <karm>, 'shield" is pronounced in two syllables. (The word > should properly be written with an accent over the <a> to indicate stress > on the first syllable.) As a matter of fact, the /m/ is syllabic here > because liquid plus nasal clusters in the syllable coda are illegal, to the > illegal cluster is broken up by making the m syllabic. > > Other words from the same language with syllabic consonants: <tovl>, 'to > instruct' and <tovlm>, 'instruction' (both of which should have accents > over the <l> to indicate that it is stressed (It is the /l/ that
This is really quite interesting from a linguistic perspective, because one generally expects liquids to be preferentially syllabic, rather than nasals. I, for one, find [tov.lm=] very difficult to pronounce, as it always wants to come out [to.vl=m]. Likewise, I want [ka.rm=] to be [ka.r=m]. This is linguistically expected, since liquids are usually more sonorous than nasals. Such inversions aren't unheard of, though. PIE contains stems like *wlkw-, theoretically pronounced [wl=k_w], rather than the expected [ulk_w]. Unlike Teoh, I find it pleasant and natural to have /m/ alternate between syllabic and non-syllabic forms. -- Jesse S. Bangs jaspax@u.washington.edu http://students.washington.edu/jaspax/ http://students.washington.edu/jaspax/blog Jesus asked them, "Who do you say that I am?" And they answered, "You are the eschatological manifestation of the ground of our being, the kerygma in which we find the ultimate meaning of our interpersonal relationship." And Jesus said, "What?"

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Isidora Zamora <isidora@...>Syllabic consonants (was: Re: Beek)