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Re: Evidentials for a future English

From:Henrik Theiling <theiling@...>
Date:Wednesday, October 20, 2004, 20:56
Hi!

Estel Telcontar <estel_telcontar@...> writes:
> > I'm trying to think how a future English could develop evidentials.
I like the idea of evidentials. Don't let them have one for 'I know from trustworthy sources, that...' :-) I have evidentials as one of the very few mandatory categories in Q'eng|ai.
>... > ∙ What do you think would be a plausible reduced form of "apparently"? > The best I've thought of so far is /'perli/, derived by a sequence > something like /@'per@ntli/ > /'per@ntli/ > /perntli/ > /pertli/ > > /perli/. Does this seem at all plausible? Any other suggestions?
Oh, I like that! 'Perli' is nice.
> ∙ Where would it be likely to appear in the sentence? > A few possibilities: > Sentence-initial: perly hy sed that... > Second position: hy perly sed that... > After the verb: hy sed perly that...
Hmm, I would make it a mandatory word at the beginning of an utterance. But that's just my favorite position for evidentials.
> ∙ Anyone have any creative ideas for other evidentials and their > sources?
Let's see... Q'eng|ai currently has the following evidentials: - fact: It is a general fact that ... - experience: I say myself and was involved ... - perception: I saw myself, but was uninvolved ... - hearsay: It is said that ... - conclusion: I conclude that ... - intuition: My guts tell me that ... - internal: My current internal state is such that ... Personally, 'apparently' feels too vague to be a good evidential for Q'eng|ai's system. So I'd make 'perli' more clear and assign it either 'hearsay' or 'perception'. For 'conclusion' you could simply use 'so'. As for the others, the English phrases I come up with are too long. **Henrik

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