Re: OT: Renaming the continents
From: | Tim May <butsuri@...> |
Date: | Monday, December 16, 2002, 4:18 |
Tristan writes:
> Tim May wrote:
>
> >It seems to me that Vespucci was a fairly minor figure, and if you're
> >going to name the continent after a European explorer at all, it
> >should have been Columbus. (And it probably would have been, if he
> >hadn't insisted it was Asia.)
> >
> Didn't Columbus die believing he'd made it to Asia?* With that in mind,
> I don't think you can say that Columbus made the European discovery of
> America (and not just because it wasn't America at that stage :) ).
>
Well, that is a point of view, I suppose. Vespucci may, in fact, have
been the first person to realize that it was a new continent. But I'd
still say Columbus discovered it - he was the one who sailed out
there, found land at a certain distance, and sailed back, even if he
was labouring under a misapprehension.
>
> >Ideally, I'd prefer a native derivation*, or some kind of neutral description.
> >
> >
> Why? Unless the natives speak English, it's none of their business what
> the English name for the continents are, and if they do speak English,
> than the words of native derivation would be North and South America.
>
I'm not thinking specifically of English here, but in general
international terms, and specifically for use in my own conlang.
> >I can't see any inherent reason to favour the name America.
> >
> And there's no inherent reason to favor any other name. A name is just a
> word, and a word is merely a particular sequence of sounds which have a
> particular meaning.
>
I'm not claiming any special importance, but it's not as if people
never care about names. Who is or is not commemmorated is of some
small importance.
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