Re: GROUPLANG : POLL2 (Re: cases, modifiers, pron
|Date:||Sunday, October 25, 1998, 15:05|
Mathias M. Lassailly wrote:
>OK, then let's rather give up distinguish organs and results when using a noun
>to make verbs. Let's use
>English semantics with the split ergative system Carlos first proposed and you're
>now quite confident with.
>It's similar to English verbs pattern so is easily understood by everybody.
I agree with great relief :-)
>I mean : it's viable under the condition you stick to English vocabulary. For example
Thanks. Tho we don't want a Euroclone, I think retaining some
"western" points of view is better than forgetting them all.
>However I'm OK with split ergative because it makes it easy to learn for Europeans,
>speaking ones : they equate predicate to verb, absolutive with intransitive
>nominative, passive with
>accusative and ergative with transitive nominative. Then we don't need attributive
>anymore either and can
>replace it with genitive. Let's do that and go ahead now :
>4 cases :
>ERGative = transitive nominative
>ABSolutive = intransitive nominative
>PATientive = accusative
>GENitive = attribute attached to nouns.
>on the English pattern.
Fine. I hope you don't think we're missing some exoticness here. :-)
This system is quite simple for a European language speaker, but it
still sounds natural.