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Re: Describing the Welsh LL to non-linguists

From:Eric Christopherson <rakko@...>
Date:Saturday, November 15, 2008, 6:21
On Nov 14, 2008, at 4:53 AM, R A Brown wrote:

> In Nguni languages of south Africa (Zulu, Xhosa) etc, the sound is > written _hl_; these languages also have a _voiced_ lateral > fricative (IPA [ɮ]) written _dl_.
I think that used to be written <dhl> (as in Isandhlwana) in one or both of those languages. Mark J. Reed wrote:
> Sure. [K] is a fricative. [l_0] is an approximant. The > difference is > pretty much exactly the same as the difference between [x] and [h].
Hmm, not quite; [x] is velar, while [h] has no POA (although it has long been called a glottal fricative).

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