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Re: Tutorial--Lesson 1

From:Nik Taylor <yonjuuni@...>
Date:Sunday, February 15, 2004, 4:49
Interesting idea.  I'll give it a shot.  :-)

I shall list two romanizations, where the two systems differ (and basing
on standard pronunciation).  The second is a more phonetic (as opposed
to phone*m*ic) version, like with Japanese romanization si/shi and the
like.

Some pronunciation notes on the phone*t*ic romanization:
Vowels are more or less cardinal vowels, a is front after front
consonants (or in the diphthong ai), back after back consonants or
word-initially, or in the diphthong au.
Ç (C-cedilla) = voiceless palatal fricative

Stress in the phone*m*ic romanization is easier than in the phoe*t*ic
romanization.  It goes on the next-to-last mora, i.e., the final
syllable if that syllable is long or the penultimate if the final is
short.  Diphthongs (except aai and aau) are one mora.  In the phone*t*ic
romanization, ç (ki) makes it a little tricky.
The very few exceptions are unmarked in the native script, but will be
marked with an acute if they occur herein (which they don't)

> Hello!
Nasubi! (Less formally: Subi!)
> Good day!
Literally, Ualaaza uabita/Walaaza wabita, but _(na)subi_ is the usual greeting in all contexts.
> Good night, John!
Depending on context: If John is going to bed - Uazzala uabita/Wazzala wabita Ua-zazala ua-bita G6-sleep G6-good If you are going to bed - Vizzau/Vezzau (Vezzou in some accents, same note for all au, ai is ei in some accents) Vi- zaza -u Must-sleep-I If you are parting at night - Uagasiu uabita/Wagashu wabita Ua-gasiu ua-bita G6-night G6-good
> Goodbye, Mum! (Mum is leaving) > Goodbye, Dad! (Dad is staying behind)
I need to work on these. :-(
> this/that
This: Li That: Vaa/Iu (Yu) (Vaa for near listener, iu otherwise)
> to be (sb/sth)
Klaf (X is the same as Y) Ianas/Yanas (X is an example of Y)
> what?
Pibaa (singular) Pivbai/Pevbai (plural)
> what book?
Uifkal ualibaa? Wefkal walibaa? Ua-ifkal ua-libaa? G6-book G6-what/which
> which pen?
Uiula ualibaa? Uyula walibaa?
> this book
Uifkal uali Wefkal wali
> that pen
(near listener) Uiula uavaa Uyula wavaa
> which one?
Ualibaa/Pilibaa? (depending on gender) Walibaa/Pilibaa
> this one
Uali/Pili Wali/Pili
> that (other) one
Uiu ualatia/Piuu pilatia Uyu walacha/Pyuu pilacha Ua-iu ua-latia G6-that G6-other
> What is this?
Ianassaki pili pibaa? Yanassaç pili pibaa? Ianas-la-ki pi-li pibaa be -it-NonPunctual G7-this what Note: Nonpuctual aspect is pretty much obligatory in present tense with stative verbs. Note 2: If you were to use klaf instead of ianas, it would change the meaning of the question to "What specific thing is this?" So that the answer would be, for example, "John's history textbook". Note 3: The question word goes in the position where the answer would fill. Note 4: -la usually becomes -*a (* indicates gemination) after consonants and -a after vowels (including historic schwa). Thus, the form -a does not actually exist. I think. Note 5: Maybe -a should be given as the basic form now ... originally the alternation was -*a/-la which is why I listed -la as the default.
> This is a book.
Ianassaki uali uifkal Yanassaç wali wefkal Ianas-la-ki ua-li u-ifkal Be -it-NonPunctual G6-this G6-book Note: Notice the different gender. Genders 6 and 7 are somewhat idiosyncratic in their usage. Since the questioner did not know what the object was, he had no way of knowing that it would be gender 6, and therefore used gender 7 as a default. However, the answerer, knowing that it's a sixth gender noun, uses the appropriate gender for "this"
> What is that?
Ianassaki piuu pibaa? Yanassaç pyuu pibaa? Ianas-la-ki pi-iu pibaa be -it-NonPunctual G7-that what Note: Pi- contracts to p-, and iu becomes iuu to meet 2-mora rule
> That is a pen.
That is a brush (pens don't exist) Ianassaki uiu uiula Yanassaç uyu uyula Ianas-la-ki ua-iu ua-iula Be -it-NonPuctual G6-that G6-brush Note: The word _uiula_ is also the name of the character for /gi/. Historically, this was _uagiula_ Note 2: Note again the differnece in the word for "that".
> window
Ualuntikka/Walonchekka
> door
Pikka/Pekka
> floor
Pustaku/Postaku (Note: one would normally expect piustaku, as the G7 prefix is pi-, not p-, however, this is one of a small number of words that cause the /i/ to disappear)
> ceiling
Puzlanka/Puzranka (Same note as above)
> table/desk
Pinazzi/Pinazzhi
> yes
Saau Note: Long diphthongs only exist in monosyllabic forms
> no
Faai
> to be not
Klaf/Ianas-fil (same notes as for "to be") Klaf/Yanas-fel Note: There is a historical connection between -fil and faai, via different dialects. Many dialects have changed [aj] and [aw] to [ej] and [ow]. In addition, a number of dialects have changed /il/ ([el]) and /ul/ ([ol]) to [ej] and [ow], thus merging them with the diphthongs equivalent to the standard /ai/ and /au/
> to do not
[verb]-fil/fel
> Is this a window?
Ianassaki-bu uali ualuntikka? Yanassaçi-bu wali walonchekka? Ianas-la-ki =bu ua-li ua-lontikka? Be -it-NonPuctual=Yes/no G6-this G6-window Note: -bu may also be sentence-final or after the focus of a question. It does not affect the position of stress.
> Yes. This is a window.
Saai. Ianassaki uali ualuntikka Saai. Yanassaç wali walonchekka Saai. Ianas-la-ki ua-li ua-luntikka Yes Be -it-NP G6-this G6-window
> Is that a table?
Ianassaki-bu piuu pinazzi? Yanassaçi-bu pyuu pinazzhi? Ianas-la-ki=bu pi-iu pi-nazzi Be -it-NP=y/n G7-that G7-table Note: Pi- contracts to p-, and iu lengthens to iuu to satisfy 2-mora rule
> No. That is not a table. That is a bed.
Faai. Ianassaki-fil uiu pinazzi. Uiuu uanillu Faai. Yanassaç-fel uyu pinazzhi. Uyuu wanellu Faai. Ianas-la-ki=fil ua-iu pi-nazzi. Ua-iu ua-nillu No. Be -it-NP=not G6-that G7-table. G6-that G6-bed Note: I'm not actually sure if the first _iu_ should be in G6 or G7. Note 2: In contrastive or iterative sentences, "be" is typically dropped after the first instance. Note 3: Like -bu, fil does not affect stress assignment. However, -fil can only be added to the verb.
> he, she, it
Isna in the appropriate gender, thus: Tisna/Cheshna: She Nisna/Neshna: He Suisna/Sweshna: He/she Lisna/Leshna: It (animal associated with people) Kisna/Çeshna: It (wild animal) Uisna/Weshna: It (Gender 6 noun) Pisna/Peshna: It (inanimate)
> who?
Subaa (singular) Subbai/Sobbai (plural)
> this/that person
Sutaki suli/suvaa/suiu Sutaç suli/suvaa/suyu
> Who is it?
Klaftassi subaa? Klaftasshi subaa? Klaf-tas -ki subaa? Be -he/she-NP who? Note: Note the use of _klaf_ here instead of _ianas_. Because we are referring to a specific person, and wanting to know not the category that they belong to, but who specifically they are, you must use _klaf_ Note 2: -la was used in previous sentences because the subject was non-sentient. However, here -tas is used because the subject is sentient. Note 3: ski -> ssi (sçi -> sshi) is a regular sound change.
> It is Rob.
(Assuming that Rob is the speaker here) Klafuki naZlabu Klafoç naZrabu Klaf-u-ki na-Zlabu Be -I-NP G2-Rob Note: Approximate /r/ (possibly other rhotics like taps and trills, I'm not sure) is often borrowed as /zl/, because /l/ after dentals is realized as an alveolar approximate. In many people's speach, [zr] is, in fact, realized as [r], creating a minimal contrast between /l/ and /r/.
> Who is she?
Klaftassi subaa? Klaftasshi subaa? Klaf-tas -ki subaa? Be -he/she-NP who?
> She is Ms. Smith.
Klaftassi tiSmis. Klaftasshi cheShmesh Klaf-tas -ki ti-Smis Be -(s)he-NP G2-Smith Note: No equivalents of Mr/Mrs/Ms exist in Uatakassi Note 2: Notice the fairly drastic butchering of names, due to limited phonology, especially noticeable in the phone*t*ic romanization. :-)
> Is this person Mr. Smith?
Klaftassi-bu nataki nali naSmis? Klaftasshi-bu nataç nali naSmesh? Klaf-tas -ki=bu na-taki na-li na-Smis Be -(s)he-NP-Y/N G2-person G2-this G2-Smith
> Yes. This is Mr. Smith.
Saai. Klaftassi nali naSmis. Saai. Klaftasshi nali naSmesh. (breakdown should be obvious)
> Is she Ms. Smith?
Klaftassi-bu tiSmis? Klaftasshi-bu cheShmesh?
> No. Ms. Smith is that other person.
Faai. Klaftassi tiSmis titaki tiuu tilatia Faai. Klaftasshi cheShmesh chitaç chuu chilacha Faai. Klaf-tas-ki ti-Smis ti-taki ti-iu ti-latia No Be-(s)he-NP G2-Smith G2-person G2-that G2-other Note: Demonstrative always immediately follow the noun, unless there's a number, in which case that comes first, and then demonstratives. -- "There's no such thing as 'cool'. Everyone's just a big dork or nerd, you just have to find people who are dorky the same way you are." - overheard ICQ: 18656696 AIM Screen-Name: NikTaylor42