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Re: English diglossia (was Re: retroflex consonants)

From:Jake X <starvingpoet@...>
Date:Sunday, February 2, 2003, 19:56
> On Friday 31 January 2003 8:44 pm, Jake X wrote: > > > Let's not exaggerate. Literature hasn't been spelled "the old way" > > > for anything like 1000 years. "Whan that Aprille with his shoures > > > sote / The droghte of Marche hath perced to the rote, / And bathed > > > every veyne in swich licour, / Of which vertu engendred is the flour;" > > > etc. Late 14th Century. Standard spellings for words didn't really > > > exist until dictionaries became popular in the 18th century*. So in > > > practice you're looking at less than 300 years of mostly consistent > > > spelling. > > > > I'll give you that, and I was aware of this. I really must admit I got > > carried away > > in that email, it was partly out of fun. But spelling would be a
serious
> > issue if the reforms were as drastic-- and as weird-- as they were in my > > email. This from a person who learned how to spell by staring at a word > > for a long time to see if it "looked right." > > > > > Still, that's hardly a negligable amount, and probably accounts for > > > the majority of books in existance. Certainly there would be a > > > certain amount of difficulty, in the event of a language reform. RI, > > > at least, follows current conventions well enough that most old words > > > would be recognizable (as I understand it). Also, it's a lot easier > > > to learn to read odd spellings of familiar words than it is to produce > > > them. It doesn't take much practice to become used to the spellings > > > of familiar words in Middle English - the difficulty comes from words > > > which are obselete, which wouldn't apply in this case. I suspect that > > > the kind of people who enjoy "the beautiful scent of dust from the > > > book not beeing read for 150 years" would probably be willing to learn > > > to recognize old spellings. > > > > It's spelled obsolete. I usually wouldn't correct like that, but this > > time, it's in the spirit of the thread. hehe > >
Joe scrub:
> What is odd, is that I spell 'spelled' as 'spelt', more commonly. Is this
the
> beginning of the reform?
It may be a difference between U.S. and UK style spelling, but I'm not sure. I have always pronounced it [lr=nd], so I spell it that way. I also prounounce "spelled" [spEld], so that's how I spell it. Maybe in places where it is prounounced -[t] for those words, that is how it is spelled. Personally, even when I do use -[t], I always spell it -|ed|. Not sure why. Can't trhink of an example of that at the moment. Jake

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Tristan <kesuari@...>