John Vertical <johnvertical@...> wrote:
>
> The description sounds like something I've been pondering.
> The glottal consonants can be interpreted as stand-alone phonation
> and nothing else, right?
>
> [h] = voiceless
> [h\] = breathy voiced
> [?] = glottal closure
>
> I've thought of interpreting [@] as the voiced one... I think you
> may've hit on the one corresponding with creaky or tense phonation?
Well, in my interpretation every vowel counts as the voiced one..
And I don't know about "tense phonation" but it's definitely not
creaky.. it's a whistle.
Paul Bennett <paul-bennett@...> wrote:
>
> *fumes* It's only a phoneme if it occurs contrastively in a known
> language!!!! GRAR!
Argh! You're right. "New sound" I meant.
> Er, slightly more seriously, I can't even begin to image what you
> mean here. I'm at work in an open lab environment, so I can't sit
> here trying to whistle through my glottis tóo much. I guess I'll
> have to wait until I get home, and annoy my long-suffering wife.
> She's a pretty good sport, though, and tends to tolerate my making
> strange noises, intentional and otherwise.
>
> Doesn't a whistle need some kind of chamber in which to form the
> right kind of turbulence? If you can record and post examples,
> it might help me understand.
I made a few recordings: http://www.ewoudnet.nl/ruittenb/mp3/
Note that it takes an effort to make the sound, and I haven't quite
got the "hang" of it: it doesn't catch on right away, and still has
a [h] sound in it.
Adam Parrish wrote:
> I can make this sound, but only when I have laryngitis.
> Maybe you should get your throat checked out. :)
:)
René