Re: Natlang-based "IAL pidgins" (was: Bigbabytalk -a primitive language for AI)
From: | Jonathan Chang <zhang2323@...> |
Date: | Sunday, September 10, 2000, 17:59 |
In a message dated 2000:09:10 3:41:17 AM, ray.brown@FREEUK.COM writes:
>Yep - but the problem is that people tend to have an aversion towards >what
looks like a butchered form or caricature of their own language.
>
That is a common response to pidgins & creoles in general, i.e. "pidgin
is a debased version of our mother/father/parent-tongue", "pidgin/creole is
babytalk," etc.
>I'm told that Esperanto causes distaste among some Italian speakers >because
it appears to them like some distortion of their own language.
>
>So a pidgin with "Italo-Spanish-like lexifying" might be fun to create
>and, indeed, have aesthetic appeal for Jonathan (and, I'd guess, could >well
have aesthetic appeal for many anglophones), but don't expect it >to have the
same aesthetic appeal for Italian & Spanish speakers ;)
Hmmm, so far Luca has reacted favourably to all my off-list consultations
with him on Caos Pidgin... And my polyglot-fiend friend Yuri Mayakovski/Ure
Meyer-Kaufser loves the idea (he has been reaaally bugging me to adopt some
ideas of his regarding "elliptical syntax" like having no copula, infinitive
is not stated - it is implied & understood in context, use of anaphora rather
than correlatives for recursion, etc.).
czHANg