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Re: Nou Pare (Our Father) in Aingeljã (also with Audio)

From:Ángel Serrano <aingelja@...>
Date:Tuesday, September 3, 2002, 10:12
--- In conlang@y..., Ángel Serrano <aingelja@Y...> wrote:> Hi, following
Christian's Jovian version "Noter> Pazer", now you can also read (and hear) the
version> in Aingeljã: "Nou Pare".>Nice! It has a distinctly new yet internally
consistent sound. I>especially like the -ets and -eu endings. The latter sounds
a bit>Portuguese. =P

Yeah, thank you! -ets is more Catalan and -eu is more Portuguese.

>I do have a question though: Are there any rules as to what happens>to the >syllable-final nasals of Latin? The examples in your text>appear a bit >inconsistent:
I do have rules, but there are also exceptions!
> - In |santificat|, |semper|, and the first syllable of |tentacjõn|,> the > nasal remains in place, and the vowel is not nasalized.
That's right. The letter "n" is usually dropped only at the end of the word and but not in some derivate words. For example: "pã" (bread), but "pãnjer" (baker); "qwestjõ" (question), but "qwestjõnâre" (to ask). There are also words with a dropped "n" in the middle of the word: cõdenare (to condemn). However, "m" is usually maintained, even at the end of the word: "com" (with), but "cõ" (how, cómo in Spanish). Another exception: "tãbeu" (too, también in Spanish). By the way, there are only four nasalized vowels: ã, i~, õ, u~. "E" doesn't exist because the letter e~ seems not to be available in any font I know!! That's why I have words like "bene" (well) or "trã" (train, instead of "tre~", from the Spanish tren). What you haven't noticed is what I call "word bonding", quite similar to French "liaison": when a word ending in a nasal vowel (with tilde ~) is followed by another one beginning with a vowel or an "h" (which is mute), then the dropped "n" reappears. That's why you read "tentacjõn ET ..." or "pãn ET ...". There cannot be a punctuation sign between both words in order to have word bonding.
> - In |pãn| and the second syllable of |tentacjõn|, the nasal remains> and > the vowel is nasalized.> - In |cõ|, |nõ|, |tãbeu| etc, the nasal falls > away, but the vowel> is nasalized.> Do you decide that by instinct, or is > there a rule I haven't noticed?
As you can see, there are rules, but exceptions come by instinct. Adio! Ángel Serrano. A Pagga doul'Aingeljã - La página del Angeliano - Angelian's Homepage http://es.geocities.com/aingelja --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger Nueva versión: Webcam, voz, y mucho más ¡Gratis!

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