Re: tSat: Re: 'tEst 'pli:z ig'nOr\
From: | T. A. McLeay <relay@...> |
Date: | Thursday, February 1, 2007, 13:25 |
On 01/02/07, Benct Philip Jonsson <conlang@...> wrote:
^^ Thanks Mark, that looks much betterly!
> "T. A. McLeay" <relay@...> hat escreut:
> The Russian pronunciations are IIANM /'i:g@r;/ and
> /I'va:n/ (Yitzik are you listening? You even used to be an
> Igor IIRC?)
I did not think that Russian made a distinction of length.
> > I imagine the nearest vowel in my speech to the Russian
> > vowel is in fact "short i". (The Russian word _ty_ ("you")
> > is sometimes very close to how I pronouce the name of the
> > fourth letter of the (English) alphabet, altho the Russian
> > vowel usually strikes me as broader than I'd aim for...)
>
> Russian has both /i/, Romanized _i_, and /i\/, Romanized _y_
> as different phonemes.
Indeed, it was that contrast that I was alluding to by observing that
"y" sounds more like my /Ii/ than "i" does, or vice versa. Hence that
"Igor"/"Ivan" with a "long e" vowel is not particularly much more apt
than with a "long i" vowel. Perhaps I should try saying what I mean,
instead of expecting people to jump to my conclusions :)
--
Tristan.
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