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Re: tSat: Re: 'tEst 'pli:z ig'nOr\

From:Roger Mills <rfmilly@...>
Date:Thursday, February 1, 2007, 3:36
Mark J. Reed wrote:
> > I can't get over the /i/ in "ignore". Makes me think Ignor is the > > > negated version of Igor... > > > IML and IME, "ignore" has an /I/. > >
Tristan replied:
> > I'm not distinguishing between [i] and [I] as IME, when I hear [i] and > > [I] as different, the [I] sounds like either /e/ or /@/ (but the [i] > > sounds like a possible unusual /I/). If I don't pronounce "Igor" as > > /Aego:/, I pronounce it as /Iigo:/. > > Igor definitely starts with an EE sound, not an EYE sound. Have you not > *seen* any Frankenstein movies? :)
Since the topic was "i in its various forms", I suspect Tristan may have momentarily thought of "long i" vs. "short i", I.e. [aI] vs. [I]
> And "ignore" just as definitely has a sound completely unlike any of EE, > EH, > or UH. :) >
My take on T's "igno:" was that his "i" reflected the tendency ASUI in Aus.Eng. to pronounce the lax vowels (I,E,U and probably O in US usage) noticeably higher and less lax than "Standard Amer." is accustomed to. But then the question arises, how does he distinguish the EE sound* (as in "team") from the "short i"** as in "Tim"'; or "beat/bit" etc.?? Hence my wonderment too when he says of "Igor"-- "I pronounce it as /Iigo:/." That, I'd have to hear. ----------------- *AKA "tense /i/", or (most)US phonemics /iy/, (some US)UK /i:/ IPA [i] **AKA "lax /i/", US/UK phonemics /i/, IPA [I] ---------------------- (Disclaimer: today is not "Beat up on Tristan Day" :-))))) )

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