Re: tSat: Re: 'tEst 'pli:z ig'nOr\

Mark J. Reed wrote:
> > I can't get over the /i/ in "ignore".  Makes me think Ignor is the
> > > negated version of Igor...
> > > IML and IME, "ignore" has an /I/.
> >
Tristan replied:
> > I'm not distinguishing between [i] and [I] as IME, when I hear [i] and
> > [I] as different, the [I] sounds like either /e/ or /@/ (but the [i]
> > sounds like a possible unusual /I/). If I don't pronounce "Igor" as
> > /Aego:/, I pronounce it as /Iigo:/.
>
> Igor definitely starts with an EE sound, not an EYE sound.  Have you not
> *seen* any Frankenstein movies? :)
Since the topic was "i in its various forms", I suspect Tristan may have
momentarily thought of "long i" vs. "short i", I.e. [aI] vs. [I]

> And "ignore" just as definitely has a sound completely unlike any of EE,
> EH,
> or UH. :)
>
My take on T's "igno:" was that his "i" reflected the tendency ASUI in
Aus.Eng. to pronounce the lax vowels (I,E,U and probably O in US usage)
noticeably higher and less lax than "Standard Amer." is accustomed to. But
then the question arises, how does he distinguish the EE sound* (as in
"team") from the "short i"** as in "Tim"'; or "beat/bit" etc.?? Hence my
wonderment too when he says of "Igor"-- "I pronounce it as /Iigo:/." That,
I'd have to hear.
-----------------
*AKA "tense /i/", or (most)US phonemics /iy/, (some US)UK /i:/ IPA [i]
**AKA "lax /i/", US/UK phonemics /i/, IPA [I]
----------------------

(Disclaimer: today is not "Beat up on Tristan Day" :-))))) )

Reply