Re: tSat: Re: 'tEst 'pli:z ig'nOr\

On Jan 31, 2007, at 7:52 PM, Mark J. Reed wrote:

> I can't really compare "off" and "all" because the vowel in the
> latter is
> too, er, lateralized.   My subjective belief as the articulator is
> that
> "off", "all", and "are" are variants of the same underlying vowel
> quality,
> just dipthongalized by the liquids, but it's hard to be sure.
>
> On 1/31/07, veritosproject@gmail.com <veritosproject@...> wrote:
>>
>> quote:You pronounce "off" with the same vowel as "all"? I thought
>> that was
>> something only old people with broad Australian or Cockney accents
>> did. I suppose in America, most bets are "orf" too.
>>
>> PNW here, and i say [af] and [al].
>>
I've often wondered about lateralized vowels or vowel-lateral
coarticulation. I've never heard of an actual language that uses them
(distinctly from normal vowels at least), but it seems easy to me to
produce them.