Re: A new translation exercise (was: lexicons)

In message <3702C419.A9D80C1@...>, Nik Taylor <fortytwo@...>
writes
>John Fisher wrote:
>> Cwand inye         caro-lorye      pani   lisnien,
>> when  speaker-ATR  three-grand-ATR father be.young-person
>>
>> en
>> person
>
>Why is person indicated seperately, if _lisnien_ already means
>"person"?  Is there some reason or is htis just an idiosyncracy of that
>verb?
"En"="person" corresponds to "he" in the original:

      When my great-great-grandfather was a young man, he travelled
      out into the world.

Elet Anta doesn't really have proper pronouns;  see "in"="speaker" in
place of "I".  So "en" is the subject of the next clause,  "en ow urfaw
evarn loalpew"="that person thus far travelled through the world."

Interlinear glosses are the devil :-)  Actually "lisnien" is a noun,
formed out of "lisni"="be young" and "en", and means "a young person".
I could have written "Cwand inye caro-lorye pani lisni"="When my
g.g.father was young..." but I decided to stick closer to the original.

Thanks,

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John Fisher   john@drummond.demon.co.uk   johnf@epcc.ed.ac.uk
Elet Anta website: http://www.drummond.demon.co.uk/anta/
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