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Re: orthographical question.

From:Frank George Valoczy <valoczy@...>
Date:Thursday, March 29, 2001, 23:35
> >/h/ on the other hand is hardly used, but how stupid would it look to > >retain the German /sch/ in an Italian-inspired orthography and have > >/schtalu/. I also think that that isn't reasonable because the whole point > >of changing the orthography was to forget the days of evil Austria...> > > My 2 cents: Avoid _sc'talu_: the unenlightened foreigner is immediately > going to think [sk-].
Good point...but would that really be a consideration of the Instituta da Langaya?
> Possibilities: Least likeable: put a breve over the _i_; Romanian uses it > IIRC, but of course it doesn't work in email.
Romanian does do that, but that's for a different sound altogether from /i/, almost /y/ actually. Romanian has those commas under s for /S/ and uses the Italian method for c...I don't like that way cuz its not regular, but...
> Also awkward in email, though not in text: s^ and c^ (s- and c-hacek) > Perfectly acceptable in several E.Eur. languages.
I thought of that too...
> Perhaps: _sh_, so shtalu, and I suppose _tsh_ for /c^/ (c-hacek) (or devise > somethng else for c^ [ I don't remember the whole phonology of Dalmatian-- > is c^ contrastive?]). Doesn't Albanian use _sh_? How about Polish sz, cz? > Or: Matt's _sj_ and I suppose _tj_; not bad, though a hint of Germanic > usage, cf. Germ. dsch for [dZ], tsch [tS]; so why not s+Z, t+Z to indicate > voicelessness.
Of all these I like the Polish idea the best. The German one isn't good, because the whole idea of the orthographic reform was to abandon the old orthography which was based on German. Albanian does use /sh/, also 'c-cedille' for /tS/, but again I don't much like the idea of mixing digraphs and whatever you call the little lines, squiggles etc. that you put on letters. Ok...I think I have it. /sz/ for [S] and /s/ for [s], /c/ as it is now (like in Italian). This will work because [S] isn't an overly common sound...yeah I like it. Thanks =) -------ferko Ferenc Gy. Valoczy Suurt chugunikka peene ahjo suhe et toukka. Virtual Votia - Vaddjamaa Internetaza: http://www.geocities.com/uralica railways page: http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/3976/ 25kV 50Hz: http://www.mp3.com/25kV50Hz

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