Re: Love Those Double Vowels (was: Diving In...)

In a message dated 11/7/01 7:30:17 AM, christophe.grandsire@FREE.FR writes:

>En réponse à Doug Barr <dbarr@...>:
>
>>
>> I don't know the difference the dictionary means, but as I say them
>> slowly,
>> words like "fleur" and "bleu" don't have the same vowel - "fleur" is
>> more
>> open. Christophe?
>>
>
>Exactly! 'Fleur' has /9/, the IPA oe-ligature, while 'bleu' has /2/, the
>IPA o-
>slash. Still considered separate phonemes in French.
Do you know of any minimal pairs for those?

>> Of course, Québecois is a dialect that pronounces "tu vas" as /tsu vA/,
>> "je
>> suis" as /Syi/
>
>That's also my pronunciation in fast speech (in fact, rather /SHi/, with
>the
>front rounded approximant - IPA turned-h -).
I was taught to say /SsHi/. Pretty close! :-)

>Christophe.
>
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>
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