Re: Love Those Double Vowels (was: Diving In...)

En réponse à Josh Roth <Fuscian@...>:

> >
> >Exactly! 'Fleur' has /9/, the IPA oe-ligature, while 'bleu' has /2/,
> the
> >IPA o-
> >slash. Still considered separate phonemes in French.
>
> Do you know of any minimal pairs for those?
>
There are as many minimal pairs for those as there are for English /T/
vs. /D/ :)) . I only call them phonemes because the average French person (me
included) considers them as different sounds, even though they don't serve to
differentiate minimal pairs. We hear the difference, can even make up words
with only them to differentiate them, but no actual minimal pair exists.

>
> I was taught to say /SsHi/. Pretty close! :-)
>
I also pronounce it like that, depending on the situation. In fact, there is a
continuum between the overcorrect [Z@sHi] and the overquick [SHi] depending on
speed of speech.

Christophe.

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