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Re: Eak!! WHAT's in a name?

From:R A Brown <ray@...>
Date:Tuesday, October 23, 2007, 17:43
Paul Bennett wrote:
> On 10/23/07, R A Brown <ray@...> wrote: > >>Hi all, >> >>I've just realized - and I should have noticed this long before - that >>Ελληνικό Άνευ Κλίσι (Ellènikó Áneu Klísi - Greek without inflexions) is >>*ungrammatical*. >> >>At the very least the name >>should be Ελληνικό το Άνευ Κλίσι (Ellènikó to Áneu Klísi) >> >>But I'm sure JP would have called it το άνευ κλίσι Ελληνικό (to áneu >>klísi Ellènikó). So I guess the abbreviation should really be ΤΑΚΕ (TAKE). > > > In this non-Hellenist's eyes, articles can be safely omitted from > acronyms and initialisms. In fact, I'd argue that they not only can > but should be omitted (along with adpositions and any other particles > that can be glarked from context),
Yes, there's the rub. The A in EAK is the initial letter of a preposition. If I'd simply abbreviated the ungrammatical Ελληνικό Άνευ Κλίσι as EK, then the inclusion of the article would not have mattered. But if I include Άνευ (without) it seemed unreasonable to treat the article differently. In any case, being a perfectionist (a curse when I used to program), I'm sure that a Josephos Peanou in WHAT would have used the form το άνευ κλίσι Ελληνικό (to áneu klísi Ellènikó), so any EK or ETAK would really be a fudge. [snip]
> Therefore, the abbreviation "EAK" has my official permission to remain > unmolested, though "TAKE" does indeed have a certain charm.
I does, doesn't it? --------------------------------- Henrik Theiling wrote: [snip] > TAKE is a tempting acronym, of course. I'd keep the old acronym on > the page somewhere, however, for Google to still find it. I have kept it on the Introductory Page (index.html), as well as the new one. > **Henrik > > PS: 'Greek Inflections Vanished Easily' (GIVE). :-D I like it. If you don't mind, I think I'll work that in somewhere on the introductory page, acknowledge the source, of course. Right then - TAKE it is. -- Ray ================================== http://www.carolandray.plus.com ================================== Entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitudinem.

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