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Re: OT More pens (was Re: Phoneme winnowing continues)

From:John Cowan <cowan@...>
Date:Tuesday, June 10, 2003, 12:22
Christophe Grandsire scripsit:

> For the last two, you have solid hard evidence that indeed, the Earth is > round, and indeed, Octavian was the first emperor of Rome. Christ is > something else. We did learn at school about the historical character > Jesus, for the little we know about him, and about the historical > development of Christianity.
Here's a nice passage from the Canadian literary critic Northrop Frye: # Many fallacies result from the notion that 'a' myth remains buried # underneath all its later literary developments like a repressed desire. # We spoke a moment ago of the Samson stories in the Book of Judges, which # seem cruder and wilder than other stories, like those told of Samuel, # for instance, in its general vicinity. We may notice that Samson's name # resembles early Semitic words for the sun, and that his story tells of a # supernaturally powerful hero associated with the burning of crops, who # eventually falls into a dark prison-house in the west. That the story # shows structural or narrative analogies to the kind of story that might # be suggested by the passage of the sun across the sky is true, and no # storyteller worth his keep would try to eliminate such analogies. But # to say that the Samson stories 'derive from' a solar myth or that a # solar myth 'lies behind' them is to say more than anyone knows. # # To use an example I have given elsewhere, anyone writing the life # of Napoleon might speak of the 'rise' of his career, the 'zenith' # of his fame, or the 'eclipse' of his fortunes. This is the language # of solar mythology, but it does not follow that the story of Napoleon # evolved from a sun myth. What follows is that mythical structures # continue to give shape to the metaphors and rhetoric of later types # of structure. The Samson stories are of a very different type from # that of any conceivable life of Napoleon, but the solar elements in # them are still metaphorical and rhetorical elements. --_The Great Code: The Bible and Literature_ I grabbed this from http://www.members.shaw.ca/kschindler/frye_2.htm ; http://www.members.shaw.ca/kschindler/frye_1.htm is also very interesting, on Biblical literalism. -- John Cowan jcowan@reutershealth.com www.reutershealth.com www.ccil.org/~cowan Assent may be registered by a signature, a handshake, or a click of a computer mouse transmitted across the invisible ether of the Internet. Formality is not a requisite; any sign, symbol or action, or even willful inaction, as long as it is unequivocally referable to the promise, may create a contract. --_Specht v. Netscape_