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Re: OT More pens (was Re: Phoneme winnowing continues)

From:Tristan <kesuari@...>
Date:Thursday, June 12, 2003, 14:18
On Thu, 2003-06-12 at 22:54, Christophe Grandsire wrote:
> En réponse � Ian Spackman : > > > >Anyway, I had always assumed that the New Quebec Way (which differs in > >several ways from the British and North American cursives, and so proved > >very inconvenient because most people have difficulty reading it) was based > >on French handwriting, but it seems this is not the case. The open bs and > >ps may be from the French, but the r (the feature mosr people have > >difficulty with) remains unexplained. > > How is the r written in the New Quebec Way? The one we learn in France, as > you could see on the example, is actually much like the block small letter > 'r', except that another leg is added to it so that you end up again at the > baseline and can connect to the next letter (whether it's there or not ;)) ).
So how do you connect an o? It's connector is up the top. (The way I learnt to print was similar to Christophe's, though less, well, rounded: the after-bit on the b, for example, didn't have a circle on it, and the inny of the k comes to a point. I guess this is the difference between biros and fountain pens. And goshdarnit, print-style caps! Take a look at the PDFs at the bottom of <http://www.sofweb.vic.edu.au/eys/lit/newresources.htm>. (The biggest difference between Victorian Modern Cursive with speed loops and my note-taking handwriting, other then messiness and flatness, is that my b have been closed, my z are dashed print-style, my t, f and x are written as one line (so my x looks a bit like an ash), my J has a top bit, U doesn't come back down to the baseline, and my G has both horizontal and vertical things at its end. My print is a neater, unconnected[1] version of my note-taking handwriting, has no descender in the f and my x is more like a lc gamma that stays above the line, or is written as a cross. My a also sometimes has the top bit. My normal handwriting is a mix of the two, sometimes connected, sometimes not. My 7 is dashed, and all numbers are cap-height, which I'm sure is how I learnt them. If I were to write in cursive, it would be VMC w/speed loops.) [1]: This has the effect of leaving a negligible distinction between u and v, which I was taught were distinguished only by the connector (top for v, bottom for u). -- Tristan.