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Re: OT More pens (was Re: Phoneme winnowing continues)

From:Barry Garcia <barry_garcia@...>
Date:Monday, June 9, 2003, 11:21
Constructed Languages List <CONLANG@...> writes:
>*Third grade*? That's what, grade three, grade two equivalent (the >fourth or third year of primary school)?? What did you do for the >threeish years before then? (We learnt how to write in grade prep (first >year), learnt cursive in grade three (fourth year), and got (ballpoint) >pen licences in grade four (fifth year). We only had to do cursive while >we were learning it, and even then it was an optional extra: they were >happy enough if we did loops on our ascenders/descenders. Of course, it >was also a sign of being better than people who didn't do it, so most >people wanted to :) )
Lets see, well, as obvious as it can be, we learned... How to write! Yes, they teach that as soon as you get into Preschool (if you go), or kindergarten if you start school then. WOW, we're just like every other educated first world society then :). My brother and I learned to write a bit even before we entered preschool at age three. Mom thought it would be handy.From preschool through 2nd grade we learned mostly how to print. And during first grade they introduced in cursive to us (I still remember the cardboard banners of all the cursive letters in my first grade classroom). By third grade we were expected to know it perfectly, because as kendra said, they told us in High School we'd be expected to use it. Of course that was only true in Middle School (6th - 8th grades). By high school computers had come far enough that teachers actually preferred students to write essays on the computer, or the typewriter if they could, but if a student chose to write by hand they had to do it in cursive (neatly), and in black or blue ball point pen ink. If a student printed the ink colors had to be the same. By the time i graduated high school however, teachers were requiring that we use a computer to type and print out what we wrote. In university, professors demand we use the computer to write our essays (12 - 14 pt. font, only arial, helveteca, verdana, courier or times roman, double spaced, and 1 inch margins). I remember a couple years ago having to take the Graduate Writing Asessment Requirement, where we had to show we could write about a topic at college level (this was to weed out any students who for some reason was able to get out of taking remedial English courses), and we had to write it by hand. Everyone is so used to the computer that writing for 45 minutes caused all of our hands to cramp up and us to wonder how the hell we wrote papers by hand in High School. By the way, preschool and kindergarten are about two years additional schooling before first grade. You usually start preschool at age 3 or so, and then the next year is Kindergarten.

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