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Re: [YAPT] Judge my vowels

From:Philip Newton <philip.newton@...>
Date:Monday, July 26, 2004, 5:15
On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 00:04:20 -0400, Roger Mills <rfmilly@...> wrote:
> Oddly, when you give all these > vowels in words in bxt.mp3 they sound right on.
Though his [&] in "bat" sounded off to me.
> Is it possible that because Germ. > /e/ is always(?) long
Always long in native words, and only occurs in stressed syllables AFAIK. Can be mid-long (Duden notation) in pre-tonic(? - occurring before the stressed syllable) unstressed syllables in loan words, e.g. the first syllable of |Stenographie| mentioned previously.
> and [I] always short, there is room for some overlap?
I believe that's what J Mach Wust argues - that they are the same vowel objectively, differing solely in length, and are simply perceived as different subjectively, probably due to the usual spelling for those phones. BTW: is the subject of this thread an allusion to the English pangram "Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vows" ? Cheers, -- Philip Newton <philip.newton@...>