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Re: Language naming terminology

From:Steg Belsky <draqonfayir@...>
Date:Wednesday, September 23, 1998, 0:57
On Mon, 21 Sep 1998 23:49:25 +0200 vardi <vardi@...> writes:
>Since the subject of language/country names has come up, can anyone >solve a mystery for me? > >The Russian for "Germany", if I remember correctly, is "nyemetz" >(sorry >if my transliteration isn't accurate, but it's something close to that >I >think). The Arabic for Austria is namsa. I assume there's some link, >but >can anyone cast any light on either or both of these words?
I can't really help with this, but a friend of mine's lastname is Nemes, Nemesh originally (pre-immigration). It might have something to do with it.
>Hebrew, by the way, likes to draw on Biblical words to name >appropriate >countries, leading to Sefarad = Spain, Tsarfat = France. I get >Turkish >cable tv here in Israel, and on the news maps of Europe show some >fascinating names (Bulgaristan = Bulgaria, Yunanistan = Greece (cf >Arabic yunan = Greece, Hebrew: yavan) and a name for Albania I can't >recognize or remember).
Yavan is also a biblical name....one of Yefet's descendents if i remember correctly. Also Ashkenaz, Mitzrayim (of course :) ), Teiman, Hodu...there are probably others that i can't think of right now. Also, i just learned that, interestingly, Hebrew is one of the few(?) languages to refer to Gypsys by their own name, _Romanim_ (from Romany "romano"). For those reading this not familiar with Hebrew place/people names: Yefet = Japheth, Noah's son Ashkenaz = the area of the Rhine valley, and the old name for Germany (now just called Germanyah) Mitzrayim = Egypt. i think it's _miSr_ in Arabic also Teiman = Yemen Hodu = India
>Any explanations/comments/additions welcome! > >Shaul Vardi > >--- and Shana Tovah (Happy New Year) to Steg, and anyone else on the >list who may be marking the entry of 5759.
Thanks, to you too! -Stephen (Steg) _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]