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Re: THEORY: language and the brain [Interesting article]

From:Andreas Johansson <andjo@...>
Date:Tuesday, July 1, 2003, 14:54
Quoting Chris Bates <christopher.bates@...>:

> I would not worry about devoicing z in English! We don't contrast s > and > z too much I think since they used to be allophones in English, and > while it is more usual to hear z and it might give you a bit of an > accent saying s instead, most of the time it wouldn't cause you to be > misunderstood or give you too much of an accent! (Except in the > occasional odd pair that only contrast s and z, like house and to > house) > I think pronouncing T, D correctly is far more important than > differentiating between s and z...
No-one's actually ever complained about my English* pronunciation on this point - it's just an oddity in my English I've noted. No-one seems to care about not voicing /Z/ and /dZ/ either. * I've got complaints for the same error in German, tho! Andreas
> >Maybe we should do a list of all conlangers who've not have trouble > with [T] > >and [D]? Despite much help from parents and teachers when I started to > learn > >English in fourth grade, I didn't master them till several years later, > when I > >borrowed myself a phonetics book, from whose descriptions I managed to > get it. > >Till I learnt to say 'em properly, I used [d] for /D/, and for /T/ [t] > and > >[f], with quite random distribution - I used to say [fIN] "thing" and > >[tINk] "think". > > > >I also, perhaps more creatively, had trouble with voiced fricatives. I > still > >tend to devoice English /z/ and /Z/ way too often. > > > > Andreas > > > > > > >

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