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Re: an "i" for an /i/ was: Heyas all!

From:Steg Belsky <draqonfayir@...>
Date:Monday, March 29, 1999, 15:58
On Sun, 28 Mar 1999 15:04:49 -0500 Nik Taylor <fortytwo@...> writes:
>Mathew Willoughby wrote: >> What do most of you on this list use? I've gotten the impression >> that a Latin-based spelling, modified by the creator's own >conventions >> for non-Latin sounds, seems to be prevalent.
The latin-alphabet transliteration of Rokbeigalmki's "Ziifer" alphabet is sorta complicated, because it has too many sounds to just use simple latin-type values for all the consonants vowels and diphthongs. The actual alphabet that Rokbeigalmki uses was made before Rokbeigalmki existed, for the now-aborted conlang ool-Nuziiferoi (hence the name Ziifer) /UlnuzajfROj/ ( [R] = /@<rhotic>/ ) . This was back when i had just started learning Spanish, but even before that i had picked up from *somewhere* to use {a e i o u} for /a e i o u/....actually, it was actually {e} /E/. Probably from transliteration-schemes for Hebrew. I used this "almost-cardinal-vowel" system for pronouncing my substitution-code D'gijsiki, although more than one vowel next to eachother didn't exactly fit in: aa = /&/ or /e@/ ee = /ji/ or /ej/ (different time periods) ii = /aj/ (i always use {ii} for /aj/, it probably comes from Hebrew, where {yy} can mean this) oo = /O/ or /Oj/ (different time periods) uu = /U/ or /Uj/ (different time periods) and, the only non-same combination: uo = /wa/ (probably based on {o} = /a/ in English "pot, cot, rot") So, based on this, ool-Nuziiferoi needed a was pretty standard (exactly like Rokb.'s) except that because of the use of /@<r>/ {er} as a vowel, the combination /Er/ had to be spelled {ehr}. The rest of the transliteration is pretty intuitive, if you think like me - which most people don't :) . The consonants are just mostly English values and combinations, except for: F = /P/ DH = /D/ JH = /Z/ HH = /H/ KH = /x/ GH = /G/ NG = /n"/ (uvular nasal) The vowels on the other hand, are pretty much almost all messed up, a mixture of latin-style, english-style, d'gijsiki and new insanities, such as {ai}: A = /a/ E = /E/ I = /i/ O = /o/ U = /u/ AA = /&/ AI = /e@/ AU = /O/ II = /aj/ IH = /I/ EI = /ej/ OO = /U/ UH = /V/ AO = /aw/ OU = /&w/ OI = /Oj/ -Stephen (Steg) "minwen jayeh? mimissrayim." "fen rayikh? liyerushalayim." "ishu zawatak? massah umaror." ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]