Re: CHAT: Hello
|From:||JS Bangs <jaspax@...>|
|Date:||Tuesday, September 16, 2003, 17:54|
Heather Fleming sikyal:
> Testing, testing... Let's see if I've actually figured out how to POST to this list...
Maybe . . . I got this message, but not sorted how I expected it to be.
> Anyway, hi, my name is Heather and I'm new to the list. I'm an aspiring
> fantasy author who ended up majoring in linguistics, with inevitable
:). A wonderful way to start a conlang career. Welcome!
> Has anyone else done something like that for a lark - coming up with the
> most unrealistic (at least for humans) language possible? Not fully
> formed of course, but in sketch form anyway?
Such langs are colloquially known as "freaklangs". There's a few of them
lying around here--Maggel is known for its orthography, and Ebisedan for
its unusual case system (though Teoh will be quick to point out that he
didn't *mean* for Ebisedan to be a freaklang). I'm sure there's others out
there, but these are the only ones I can think of right now.
I myself take the opposite approach--making languages that resemble real
languages. In this I count myself in good company in this endeavor, with
Tolkein, LeGuin, and a good portion of the list having similar goals.
> Now I'm working on coming up with languages for some fiction I've been
> working on ever since I was a kid and finally worked the juvenile plot
> holes out of. The really fun part is that there is a gap of about 1300
> years between one volume and the next, so I get to come up with Old and
> Modern versions. I have some vague ideas about them, but they're still
> very much in the air yet.
Diachronic language change is my favorite aspect of conlanging. Do bring
> I'm also helping my friend and co-author develop her conlang for her
>> conspecies, whose language is completely pitch-based (they have
>> incredible hearing and their vocal tracts can produce up to I think 6
>> tones at a time. Their planet is kind of isolationist because although
>> their civilization and technology are very advanced, their culture is
>> completely oral so they have no written form, and no one offworld can
>> learn to understand or produce it because they lack the physical
>> capacity, and it's bloody hard for them to get the hang of phonetic
> Out of curiosity, anyone else have a non-phonetically-based conlang?
There are some of those, too. Just a while ago someone was talking about
making a language based on bat sounds. Though, technically, both this and
your friend's language are phonetic, as they involve sound. (And even
non-vocal language can have "phonology", as I've read some fascinating
articles on the phonology of American Sign Language.)
Jesse S. Bangs firstname.lastname@example.org
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And they answered, "You are the eschatological manifestation of the ground
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