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Re: CHAT: Hello

From:bnathyuw <bnathyuw@...>
Date:Sunday, August 4, 2002, 22:12
 --- Roger Mills <romilly@...> wrote: > Thomas
> IIRC, William Labov's groundbreaking study, in the > 60s, of Martha's Vineyard > (or was it Nantucket??) speech compared data > recorded by the dialect survey > conducted in the 30s with speech current in the > 60s-- there were noticeable > changes in pronunciation, especially in the > diphthongs. In many cases it > was possible to compare children/grandchildren of > the same people who'd been > recorded in the 30s. Social factors were involved, > e.g. orientation of of > younger people to the island's culture, vs. desire > to leave the island and > participate in the "mainland" economy/culture, > etc.....no doubt more > exposure to radio etc. So apparently _phonetic_ > change can occur within 1 > generation, and that could be true in the Brazilian > case. A change /r/ > > [x] > [h] doesn't disrupt the phonemic system.
i'm too young to remember, but apparently in the 60s in london there was a voguish pronunciation of /tr/ as /tS/, so 'train' came out as 'chain'. more an affectation than a true accent, but it illustrates the fluidity of pronunciation. bn __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com

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