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META: international characters and HotMail [was Re: New Conlang: Ai Glwssai]

From:Mark J. Reed <markjreed@...>
Date:Tuesday, June 17, 2003, 17:19
On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 09:57:58AM -0700, Garth Wallace wrote:
> No, I get the gibberish too. Looking at the message headers, it appears > that it was sent without an explicit charset, which my mailreader > interprets as Windows-1252 (odd, since I'm on Linux...maybe it's a > concession to all the defective Outlook-produced email out there?). I
Definitely a HotMail problem. Since it wasn't marked as to character set, it was assumed to be 7-bit ASCII, so some gateway out there seems to have replaced all of the high-bit characters with question marks, at least by the time it got to me. I tried sending myself a simple all-Latin-1 message from my HotMail account: ¡Hola! ¿Cómo estás? And it came through as this: ?Hola! ?C?mo est?s? Interestingly enough, though, when I tried a UTF-8 message, it came through with HTML entities (even though the content-type was still given as text/plain): Hodiernus dies est ante diem XV Kalend&#257;s I&#363;li&#257;s So I could at least paste that into an HTML file and look at it. The best luck I had from HotMail was with creating a text file and then attaching it to the message, rather than pasting into the actual text box for the message body. The file comes through with a generic content type (application/octet-stream), but at least I can save it and look at it with a text editor and see the right characters. -Mark