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Re: Phonology/orthography sketch

From:Ingmar Roerdinkholder <ingmar.roerdinkholder@...>
Date:Thursday, May 29, 2008, 20:20
Wow this is complicated stuff ;-)

On Thu, 29 May 2008 09:04:15 +0200, Lars Mathiesen <thorinn@...>
wrote:

>2008/5/28, Benct Philip Jonsson <bpj@...>: >> Phonetically there exists [H] or [j\_w] as >> allophones of /j/ next to a rounded vowel or >> /w/, and of /w/ next to /i/. The writing system >> writes this allophonic sound with _u_ in spite >> of its occurrence being wholly conditioned by >> adjacent sounds: a word spelled _uintou_ could >> only be /wintoj/; a spelling _wintoi_ could not >> be a distinct word, but only an unusual, >> although phonemically more 'correct', spelling of >> the same word. Similarly _au_ or _eu_ could >> never occur without a following conditioning _i >> u w o_; a spelling _euor_ would always represent >> /ejor/ and might be derived from a word _ei_. >> Similarly _euir_ would be /ewir/, possibly >> derived from an _ew_. > >What happens if you have both /i/ and a rounded vowel next to these >approximants? Do you get [iju] or [iHu], [uwi] or [uHi], and so on? > >Are there any contexts where this could cause the difference between >//i// and //w// to be neutralized? > >(If /y/ would trigger [w] > [H] like /i/ does, we'd have tuut [tHyt] >for both //tu"yt// and //ti"yt//, and maybe tuut [tyHt] for //t"yut// >and //t"yit//). > >Lars