Re: mutation and rinya
| From: | R G Roberts <rgroberts@...> |
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| Date: | Saturday, August 7, 1999, 0:46 |
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Pardon me for butting in on this Mutation topic.
You may be interested to know that the basic scheme of mutation I am =
using for for Kelteag Nueadh - and which reflects the Celtic in general =
I believe - is as follows:-
SOFT P,T,C > B,D,G > BH(V), DH, GH(SILENT)
SPIRANT (ALSO KNOWN AS ASPIRATE) P,T,C > PH, TH, CH (AS IN LOCH)
NASAL P,T,C > MH, NH, NGH
B,D,G > M, N, NG
DENTAL T > D > N
??? B or M > V (represented by BH or MH)
LENITION (OR LEANENING OR NARROWING) is the effect upon initial =
consonants by the LEAN vowels (e, i, y) as opposed to the BROAD vowels =
(a, o, u, w). =20
Richy Roberts
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Nik Taylor <fortytwo@...>
To: Multiple recipients of list CONLANG <CONLANG@...>
Sent: 07 August 1999 00:31
Subject: Re: mutation and rinya
> Daniel Andreasson wrote:
> > What exactly is the difference between lenition, soft mutation,
> > nasal mutation (the Pinocchio syndrome :) and any other sort
> > of mutation?
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> Well, lenition is a "weakening" of the segment, usually something like
> stop --> fricative --> approximate (I think), so that t --> s would be
> lenition. I think that it also may include voicing, so that t --> d
> would also fall in that. I think that soft mutation is just another
> name for lenition. Nasal mutation is mutation that's caused by a =
nasal
> consonant (altho the consonant may be gone now). For instance ...m =
p...
> becoming ...m b..., or ...m b... becoming ...m m...
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> > I'm feeling somewhat confused here. Someone feel like helping
> > me out, please?
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> Well, here's an example from Irish (phonemic, not orthographic):
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> Normal Lenition Eclipsed
> p f b
> t h d
> k x g
> b v m
> d G n
> g G N
> f [silent] v
> m v
> s h
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> But, I don't know what the origins were of these mutations.
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> > Because then uni starts and taking both
> > Linguistics 102 and The history of the nordic languages 101
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> Hmm, I see your conlang taking a decidedly Nordic direction. :-)
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> --
> "[H]e axed after eggys: And the goode wyf answerde, that she coude not
> speke no Frenshe ... And then at last a nother sayd that he woulde =
haue