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Re: interestin' gamelang?: Cuotl from 'Rise of Nations: Rise of Legends'

From:Hanuman Zhang <zhang@...>
Date:Tuesday, April 17, 2007, 14:18
on 4/17/07 5:14 AM, Patrick Littell at puchitao@GMAIL.COM wrote:

> On 4/17/07, andrew <hobbit@...> wrote: >> On Monday 16 April 2007 11:43 pm, Henrik Theiling wrote: >>> Hi! >>> >>> Hanuman Zhang writes: >>>> ... >>>> Lately I have been ponderin' the idea of a parallel/futuristic >>>> Mayan-like conlang called Xibalbatecatl... >>> >>> The name looks like more like Aztecan. I was thinking about a >>> Nahuatl-phonology language recently, too. The grammar will be >>> totally different, though. >>> >> A quick check shows that Xibalba is a name from Mayan mythology, the >> home of the Lords of Death defeated by the heroes. I cannot speculate >> on the second half of the name of Hanuman's language. >> > > -tecatl is, so far as I can tell, the way you derive words (nouns? > adjectives?) meaning "from X". So "Xibalbatecatl" would mean "from > Xibalba", or something like that. > > I believe it's the source of all the "-tec" words for people down > there: Toltec, Zapotec, Yucatec, Aztec, etc. > > -- Pat
That is exactly what I have gathered from the etymology description in the OED's entry on _Nahuatl_ & scanning all the websearch material I have gathered so far. And yeah Xibalba is the Mayan Hades as depicted/described in the _Popol Vuh_. Evidentally the Tzotzil people didn't/do not care for the _Popol Vuh_ version of things. They hero-worship Zotz _their_ Demon Bat God who is one of the Lords of Xibalba. And it is interesting to note that the Tzotzil people & related peoples all live in Chiapas, Mexico... the centre of the Zapatista movement. Go figger... All Hail Zotz! :D Viva Zapata! -- Hanuman Zhang "A conservative is one who admires radicals centuries after they're dead." - Leo Rosten "There is no total revolution, there is only _perpetual_ Revolution, real life, like love, dazzling at every moment." ~ Paul Eluard "There is love of course. And then there's life, its enemy." - Jean Anouilh "The price of existence is eternal warfare." - Aleister Crowley