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Re: interrogative tail or head ?

From:Adam Walker <dreamertwo@...>
Date:Sunday, June 17, 2001, 4:24
I would have to agree with Christophe.  If you lose the rising intonation I
precieve the question as a blunt statement.  It loses whatever politeness it
had.  That is one of the problems I have with Chinese questions of the
choice variety (yo mei yo, duei bu duei, etc.).  These questions may end on
a falling tone which I habitually change to a rising tone for politeness and
thus mangle the meaning of the sentance and end up sounding like a goober.

Adam


>From: Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...> >Reply-To: Constructed Languages List <CONLANG@...> >To: CONLANG@LISTSERV.BROWN.EDU >Subject: Re: interrogative tail or head ? >Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 02:55:08 +0200 > >En réponse ?claudio <claudio.soboll@...>: > > > > > you state: the head of a sentence is the most important part and i > > agree. thats the principle: importance comes first. > > but i cant agree to the argument about the unwitting miss of the first > > words of a sentence. > > why ? > > it contradicts your first statement. > >Of course. But language is a bunch of contradictory elements: >recognisability >and speed of speech, precision and shortness of statements, intended >meaning >and received meaning. Each language tries to get around those >unreconciliable >elements in the optimal way (in short, it's probably impossible to do >better >than what has already been done. If you do, your language ceases to be >human >and people will have a hard time learning it). > > > when people tend to miss the "head", but still place important words > > at the head, then the miss is abviously not relevant. > > > >Well, I can check every day that when the important part of my sentences >(the >most meaningful part) is at the beginning of the sentence, I get more >questions >like: "what did you say?" or "can you repeat?" than when the important part >is >at the end. But the other problem is that the beginning of a sentence is >stronger than the end (because we generally breathed before beginning the >sentence), so that at the end things can get a little mangled. To speak in >a >signal-processing way, as for emission, the beginning of a sentence is less >noisy than the end, but reception is more sensitive to the end than to the >beginning. Each language has its own ways to reconcile those two >incompatible >elements. Usually, the strength of emission at the beginning of a sentence >is >enough to override the lack of sensitivity of the reception, so that >fronting >stays an important feature of languages. But it's not always true. If it >was, >French would never have got such long expressions to begin questions with, >which seem to waste the strong beginning of sentences without conveying >anything meaningful. > >Also, as for the psychological problem, I will contradict you on this one. >For >me, and for most people I know, questions with the rising intonation seem >more >comfortable for the hearer than questions without. Questions without the >rising >intonation sound nearly like orders, which is psychologically more >offensive >than a simple request shown by a rising intonation. > >Christophe. > >http://rainbow.conlang.free.fr
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