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Re: A form of poetry - "octricle"

From:Adrian Morgan <morg0072@...>
Date:Monday, November 4, 2002, 8:16
J Y S Czhang wrote, quoting myself:

> >The only Asian poetry I'm familiar with is haiku (I've written a few), > >and here I agree that it's similar in the sense of being conductive to > >meditative verse about simple, isolated events [...] and also in the > >sense of not utilising rhyme or metre yet still having a structure > >into which the poet must mould the thought (by contrast, European > >poetry tends to *either* emphasise rhyme and metre, as in traditional > >verse, *or* have very little structure at all, as in free verse - what > >we're talking about here is structure but a different kind). > > All AFAIK true. > > >It's nice to have someone of Asian background confirm that there's a > >connection with Asian poetry (I had, in fact, sort of wondered what > >the great Japanese poets like Basho would have made of it) > > Probably be intrigued by it's creative possibilities... afterall Basho > wasn't exactly a conservative stick-in-the-mud type ;)
No, indeed. :-) Anyone who names himself after a species of banana (I think) is my kind of guy :-)
> >but it sounds like you might be seeing more subtle similarities than > >I'm able to. So, starting from what I've described above, please tell > >me, how do you think it resembles and/or differs from Asian poetry? > > Mayhaps cuz a lotta Chinese poetry has many more forms and themes than > Japanese Zen-influenced haiku ;)
I take this to mean that the Asian sensibilities you see in the form not the sort of perception you can analyse in detail, beyond the similiarities I've suggested above. Pity, 'cos I was looking forward to your analysis and to learning something about Asian poetry in the process :-)
> How about a con/auxlang-ish name?
Nah, 'cos it's got nothing to do with con/auxlangs :-) However, foreign sounding names often sound more poetic, which is what I was thinking.
> >(BTW, is your frozen, impaled, surgical octopus prophecising the > >future as in oracle?) > > Oh no, jeepers creepers you ... now I can't get the super-surrealistic > image of a frozen, impaled, surgical octopus tossing Chinese coins to consult > the _I Ching_ outta my poor lil brainies... & it is right before MY BEDTIME, > ya bleedin' Aussie ;P~
Having an extremely visual imagination is its own punishment, I should think. :-) Adrian.

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