Re: About Hebrew pronunciation
|From:||Steg Belsky <draqonfayir@...>|
|Date:||Monday, May 31, 2004, 16:03|
On May 30, 2004, at 11:05 PM, Emily Zilch wrote:
> My own study and use of Hebrew is somewhat ConLang... I don't pronounce
> the singleton consonants as fricatives (i.e. p > f, b > v, t > T etc.),
> I do pronounce doubled consonants as such and (perhaps influenced by
> Syriac) I pronounce the vowels as such:
Since we're speaking about non-Spoken Hebrew, I might as well throw in
my own semi-neo-Classical pronunciation. This is how i pray and chant
religious texts, as opposed to how i speak. When i speak Modern
Hebrew, my accent is some kind of American-Syrian-Israeli inconstant
mix. The Syrian part is just environmental from NYC, i'm just a 'dub'
(=Ashkenazi) as the Syrians themselves would say.
/b/ [b B] (bilabial fricative)
/g/ [g G]
/d/ [d D]
/k/ [k x]
/p/ [p P] (bilabial fricative)
/t/ [t s] (because i still have Ashkenazic pride ;) )
And the doubled ones doubled.
> "short" a : & (normalised as [æ] = the a-e digraph for those who can't
> see it)
/a/~/A/, like in my NYC accent in English
> "long" a : A: (normalised as [a])
> "short" e, i : E (normalised as [e])
|segol| ('short E'): /E/
|hhiriq hhaseir| ('short I'): /I/~/i/
> "long" i : i: (normalised as [i])
> "long" e : e: (normalised with macron in handwritten notes or as [ee]
> on computer)
(sometimes i try and specifically not produce a /j/ offglide when
there's no following |yud| in the orthography)
> "short" o, u : O (normalised as [o])
'short O' |qomatz qatan|: /O/~/o/
'short U' |qubutz|: /U/~/u/
> "long" u : u: (normalised as [u])
> "long" o : /o:/ (normalised with macron in handwritten notes or as [oo]
> in a row on computer)
> initial w, y with schwa > /u:/, /i:/ respectively
I.e. i pronounce |shva na`| (schwa mobile) as /@/~/1/, like my English
> initial alep with schwa > /e/, as in eloohim
initial |alef| with |shva|? no such thing! :-O that's a
I pronounce |hhataf| 'ultrashort' vowels the same as their 'full'
> other schwas: ignored & unwritten (i.e. oH, uH for words like "Noah"):
> inserted as phonologically necessary (as with Syriac)
Are you talking about |patahh ganuv| here?
Why would you leave them out? They're so much fun! ;)
> - I pronounce the emphatic consonants as such;
What kind of emphaticness? I prefer ejective/glottalized! (except for
|tzadi|, that's pretty hard for me, whether as /s>/ or /ts)>/)
> - 'Second' shin remains a voiceless lateral, its original form
Cool! I periodically attempt that, but it sounds weird ;) .
> - r is a NON-uvular flap/trill (i.e. not the Modern Hebrew form)
Not all Modern Israeli speakers use uvular, some of them use
alveolar/dental (which i also prefer).
"jealousy, selfishness, and being a self-hating human
can cause early death."
~ [4ibbi: j@hoSua3] (rough translation)