Re: rhotics (was Hellenish oddities)

On Tue, 28 Nov 2000, BP Jonsson wrote:

> Try placing the tounge rather relaxed in position for [t] and then force a
> stream of air through.  This will produce a voiceless trill.
Nope. When I do that I get /s/ (voiceless alveolar fricative) or /l-/
(voiceless alveolar lateral fricative).

> That's how my founetiks teacher thought those of us who
> couldn't manage elegant r's, and I daresay he learnt it himself that way,
> since his natural r was uvular.
So is mine, and I had two years of speech therapy as a child to learn
the trick with the tongue. Note: *only* for that, half an hour a week
for two school years when I was seven and eight. It never worked.

Looking back, I think the class teacher had to find fault with me for
*something*, and that's what she picked on.

   Irina

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