Re: (LONG) Sketch by a novice, please criticize/help/flame/etc
From: | Nik Taylor <fortytwo@...> |
Date: | Monday, September 13, 1999, 22:59 |
Paul Bennett wrote:
> Orthographic ASCII-IPA
> Front Mid Back Fr Md Bk
> Plosive p k t p k t
> Aspirate ph kh th p_h k_h t_h
> Nasal m n ng m n N
> Sibilant s s' c s S tS
> Liquid w r y w * j
Interesting. However, why is /n/ classified in the same group as /k/,
and /N/ with /t/? Is that a typo?
> Open i e a i e a
> Closed u e" o V @ O
Cool, I use =EB for schwa in Common Kass=ED (the ancestor of Watakass=ED =
and
Eastern)
Somewhat unusual phonology, tho. V and @ are very similar sounds, and
since there's only 6 (excluding length), it seems unreasonable to make
such a narrow distinction. {u} would, IMHO, best represent /u/. Of
course, then it would be *almost* Common Kass=ED vowel system (with the
exception that CK used /o/ rather than /O/) :-) It's not very common
(altho it does occur) to have a pair like /e/ and /O/, that is, more
normal would be /e/ and /o/, or /E/ and /O/, but, then again, there's no
rule that it has to be "normal"! :-)
By the way, you can find ASCII-IPA at
http://www.cs.brown.edu/~dpb/ascii-ipa.html, most of us use the SAMPA
system, more or less
> The sound s' appears to possibly have allophones in /S/ and /ts/,
> although this is possibly an archaism.
Little nitpick: allophones go in brackets, that is, [S]. [S] and [ts]
are unusual allophones for one phoneme. [ts] would be more likely an
allophone of /tS/
> ng n-hook
Do you mean the same symbol as in IPA?
> NS NP VI VC LX
> Minimal su susnge" sungse" sunguse" su(nge")
> Reduced ame arme amre amare ame(r)
> Regular taki tatki takti takati taki
> Extended moru motru mortu morotu moru(t)
What do "minimal", "reduced", "regular", and "extended" mean?
> Locationals
>=20
> -a- Near
> -o- Far
> -e"- Obscure
> -u- Apparent
> -e- Probable/Beleived
> -i- Improbable/Disbelieved
How are the last four related to location?
> >Evidential
> khu - definately true
> khe" - seemingly/probably/partly true
> ye" - indeterminate truth/falsehood
> the" - seemingly/probably/partly false
> thu - definately false
Groovy. However, evidential usually contains something like "sensory"
or "visual", "cognitave" (using reason), and the like - that is,
indicating *how* you came to the knowledge.
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