Re: CONLANG Digest - 2 Nov 2000 to 3 Nov 2000 (#2000-301)

Muke Tever wrote:

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> > From:    Steg Belsky <draqonfayir@...>
> > Subject: Re: CONLANG Digest - 1 Nov 2000
> >
> > > I think I will be keeping <j> for /dZ/.  However, the concultural
> > > explanation will be that they couldn't find a good Romanization of
> > > /dZ/ either and borrowed the old alphabet's /dZ/ letter (which,
> > > descended from a kind of zayin, looks already quite like a j...)
> > > I already have a habit of not dotting the i's and j's when writing
> > > Atlantic, so it's all right.
> >
> > I have a habit of not dotting my {i}s and {j}s whenever i'm writing in
> > the Latin alphabet, no matter what language i'm writing in.
>
> My dots tend to incorporate into following letters:
> http://ns.southern.edu/~alrivera//ligato.gif
Pretty cool - they don't do that for me. I should try to get some of my
hand writing scanned...

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> > From:    Robert Hailman <robert@...>
> > Subject: Re: CONLANG Digest - 1 Nov 2000
> >
> > > > From:    Robert Hailman <robert@...>
> > > > Subject: Re: CONLANG Digest - 31 Oct 2000 to 1 Nov 2000 (#2000-299)
> > > >
> > > > Ooh, I like this system. I like putting accents on consonants. :o)
> > >
> > > Yup.  I had to go through several systems to find actual accented
> consonants
> > > available in common fonts (all those letters are in Times New Roman,
> Arial,
> > > etc)--I have Unicode fonts on my computer, but not everybody has...
> >
> > Do Times & Arial have z<dot>? I can't say I've noticed that.
>
> z<dot> is in in the Latin Extended-A block of Unicode, which is one of the
> blocks that the standard Windows fonts implement.  (Is it called 'WGL-4'
> that Microsoft uses, or is that something else?)  Anyway, it's not in the
> windows *character set* so you can't just type it anywhere.
Ah, I found it. Word does allow you to map Unicode characters onto
keystrokes, I have lower & upper case thorn mapped as something,
although I forget what.

> If you have a Word you should be able to reach it by Insert | Symbol.
> Capital and lowercase z-dot in HTML: &#379; &#380;
> http://ns.southern.edu/~alrivera//extchar.gif
>
> > > I had carons for them before.  But the shape just seemed so complex
> compared
> > > to the dot and the acute.
> >
> > They are complex, I can't deny. I used them in the original draft of
> > Ajuk, but my handwriting turned them into breves and then to macrons -
>
> Now, an s and a z with a _macron_ would be something!
I can't say I didn't like them, but I didn't even begin to think about
typing them. I don't think Unicode has those.

> > but then again, I write lower-case "f"s as something vaugely resembling
> > upside-down checkmarks.
>
> Heh.  My s's and g's are pretty much identical.
At the ends of words, and sentances especially, s and g are the same for
me, except that g is half above and half below the line, and s is
entirely above it.

> > > I think I will be keeping <j> for /dZ/.  However, the concultural
> > > explanation will be that they couldn't find a good Romanization of /dZ/
> > > either and borrowed the old alphabet's /dZ/ letter (which, descended
> from a
> > > kind of zayin, looks already quite like a j...)  I already have a habit
> of
> > > not dotting the i's and j's when writing Atlantic, so it's all right.
> >
> > I kand use <j> for /dZ/, I already use it for /j/, as inspired by Polish
> > & German.
Kand? What was I thinking? I think that's supposed to be "can't".

> Could use j-caron, or somesuch (as I have seen in some guides on English
> pronunciation)...
Hmm... that works too. I'm drowning in possibilties!

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Robert