Re: The Magical Tree (Translation project)

Nik writes:
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Paul Bennett wrote:
> "Far away, hidden by the sun, is a magical tree that bears magical fruit."
Cool, I like that phrasing "hidden by the sun".
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I was trying to copy the original idiom, did I do it successfully?

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> [Note the use of F6 in phomupayak to show the concept of "the tree and all
that
> is
> associated with it", rather than phomupayap which would have mean "something
> that is
> associated with the tree".  The F3 inside wiwkhikat is in nominal agreement
with
>  this.]
Fascinating.  Could you describe these F's in more detail?
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I suppose I could have used G1, G2, etc, but using F's tied in better with the
terminology I had been using (Flexion).  To explain more precisely how they work
within a word might take a little while, but I'll try to keep it brief...

I. Words have a basic structure of

Root+Particle+Flexion (Note, this is all different to my previous sketch)

where

Ia. The root may be omitted.
Ib. Several particles may be used in one word.
Ic. Flexion indicates the Gender of the root (if it's a noun), or of the agent
of the root (if it's a verb)
Id. Words which modify the meaning or context of this word will "break" the
word, and are inserted between the root and the particle.  When this happens the
structure becomes

Root1+Flexion1 Root2+Particle2+Flexion2 Particle1+Flexion1

II. Particles have a basic structure of

Flexion+Position+Meaning

where

IIa. Flexion is in agreement with what the Particle refers to, not necessarily
the root of this word.
IIb. Position shows where in real or conceptual space the meaning takes place
(in relation to the Flexion).
IIc. Meaning is a syllable such as "ta" (attributive), or "ru" (locational).
IId. Any (or all) of the three parts of a Particle may be omitted if not
required.

(I just realised this means the title of the story is wrong.  Ho-hum.)

Actually, to clarify, phomupayak means more like
"(required-possession-of-the-tree)-ness"

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> Rough Key:
Just a little suggestion, most people usually put the key at the
beginning of the text.
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Thanks for this tip.

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> Position;
> Positions tend to imply both states and positions (and a bunch of other stuff)
> Near - Near
> Far - Far
> App - Apparent, reachable, visible
> Obs - Obscure, unreachable, invisible
Cool, I like these.
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Thanks again!







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