Re: Announcement: New auxlang "Choton"

On Oct 4, 2004, at 8:25 PM, Pascal A. Kramm wrote:
> On Mon, 4 Oct 2004 18:25:10 +0200, Steg Belsky <draqonfayir@...>
> wrote:
>>> The vowel dots were borrowed from Hebrew, unchanged. I have never
>>> heard an
>>> Israeli complain that they become swooshes in use or something...
>>> I also don't understand why it should be easy to put the vowels under
>>> the wrong letter?
>> As mentioned in a different thread, in Hebrew vowel dots are hardly
>> ever written.  They're used in children's books and religious
>> literature, and here-and-there for disambiguation, but when writing it
>> is incredibly rare for a Hebrew-speaker/writer to write them out.
> I know that they're hardly written in current Hebrew - your point
> being?
> How would that explain how they are supposed to become "swooshes"?
It doesn't, i was explaining why they *don't* become "swooshes"!

>> In Arabic, which needs dots to distinguish different consonants, the
>> dots usually turn into lines.
>> 1 dot » a dot
>> 2 dots » a straight line
>> 3 dots » a \/ or /\ shape, depending on the arrangement of the dots.
> So what? What difference does it make if there's now two dots or a
> line? Or
> if there are three dots or a ^ shape? This would only be a problem if
> a line
> or a ^ would be used as well, but as they are NOT, there's no
> possibility
> for confusion, so you couldn't care less if they're two dots or a line,
> actually.
Huh?  I don't care about it.  There is no difference.  I was just
suggesting a real-world technique for writing dots fast.  It's sort of
like /phonemes/ and the [phonetic realization] - in Arabic, there are
dot /graphemes/ that are [grapheticly realized](?) as lines.
I think i was just pointing out that there's nothing 'wrong' with
having dot-patterns that can also be written as lines.


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