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Re: Announcement: New auxlang "Choton"

From:Pascal A. Kramm <pkramm@...>
Date:Saturday, October 9, 2004, 14:28
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On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 20:34:46 -0000, Christian Thalmann <cinga@...> wrote:
>Stressed schwa in German? You're pronouncing two >identical vowels in "Fette"?
Ah, you finally got it :) Yes, "Fette" is [f@t@], thus the two vowels in it are indistinguishable.
>I wouldn't be in the least surprised if you still >stuck to your original claim that your impression of >standard german is the Mass aller Dinge, but I >stopped caring a while ago. This off-topic thread >has lived long enough.
Actually, it's the *Maß* aller Dinge. Even with the insane spelling reform, you still *must* put a "ß" after a long vowel! Otherwise, "Maße" (measurements) and "Masse" (mass) would become indistinguishable. However, as I've seen most people get that wrong (among other things), so if anything, the spelling reform makes spelling just more difficult rather than the opposite. On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 23:11:27 +0200, Henrik Theiling <theiling@...> wrote:
>(This all describes my own pronunciation. I used a different word, >namely |hüpfen| to check all this, since my pronunciation of initial >/pf/ would be artificial for me and not native since my dialect >(def. a) does not have initial /pf/, but only medial.)
Actually, "hüpfen" is a bad example, as here "p" and "f" fall into two different syllables (hüp-fen). A better example would be "Kopf" (head).
>My girl friend (native German, too :-)) says she agrees with this >description (and she even has a native initial [pf]). :-)
Yes, it fits nicely. -- Pascal A. Kramm, author of Choton official Choton homepage: http://www.choton.org

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