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Re: taliboo

From:Steg Belsky <draqonfayir@...>
Date:Saturday, December 22, 2001, 23:17
On Fri, 21 Dec 2001 15:52:09 +0200 Dan Sulani <dnsulani@...>
> In Hebrew, the word for prayer / tfila/ comes from the root p-l-l, > which my > dictionary connects to the Akkadian word <palalum> which apparantly > means something like "to sit in judgement". Interestingly, Hebrew > also has > the word /plili/ (= criminal [used as an adj.]) from the same root. > The verb > /pilel/ does, in fact, have a sense of "to beg" as in begging for > mercy before a judge.
- I remember learning in high school that the idea behind _lehitpaleil_ is 'to judge oneself'; i assume that means in the sense of recognizing your insignifinace/unworthiness/whatever before Deity.
> Anyhow, I'm starting to get out of my depth in Semitic > linguistics > here, so my question in all of this is: does anybody here know what > the > _root_ of the Arabic word <talib> is? It may not include the > initial <t>. > And as for what follows the <t> in Hebrew and Arabic > ( p-l in Hebrew, l-b in Arabic), > it's not unknown for Hebrew to transpose two of the letters > of the root as found in other Semitic langs. > The question, then is: which version is older: > bilabial followed by lateral, or lateral followed by bilabial? > Does anyone know how it is in proto-Afro-Asiatic? > Dan Sulani
- I don't know about proto-AA, but i'm sure that the root of /t'a:lib/ is /t'lb/, /t'/ being the emphatic /t/. /t'a:lib/ is the same pattern as /ka:tib/ ( = koteiv, 'writer'). _talmid_ on the other hand comes from /lmd/, and the intial *non-emphatic* /t/ is just a prefix. -Stephen (Steg) "i guess it would be nice if i could touch your body" ~ a random song on the radio at the moment oh wait, it's that song where the singer screams the word "faith" over and over again...