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Re: Allophone Problem

From:Philip Newton <philip.newton@...>
Date:Monday, June 11, 2007, 12:19
On 6/11/07, Andreas Johansson <andjo@...> wrote:
> I assume you're talking about /e/ and /E/, the short froms of which have merged > as [E] in the standard 'lects. They're more-or-less consistently kept apart in > writing as <e> vs. <ä>.
> * The long versions merge as [e:] in some 'lects,
Ah, as in some 'lects of German.
> but this is considered nonstandard.
Not sure what the status of that is in German -- not merging them is more prestigious, but whether merging the long vowels is merely colloquial or actually nonstandard I'm not sure. It's certainly widespread in casual speech around here. (I merge them in casual speech, too, e.g "Räder" = "Reeder"; "wäre" = "wehre".) The short vowels have, to my knowledge, completely merged in standard German, and I haven't heard of people who keep e.g. "Sätze" and "setze" apart in the vowel sound. Cheers, -- Philip Newton <philip.newton@...>


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