Re: Rhotics (was: Pharingials, /l/ vs. /r/ in Southeast Asia)
| From: | Ray Brown <ray.brown@...> |
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| Date: | Monday, February 9, 2004, 6:32 |
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On Sunday, February 8, 2004, at 06:09 PM, Mangiat wrote:
>> From: Ray Brown <ray.brown@...>
>> Subject: Rhotics (was: Pharingials, /l/ vs. /r/ in Southeast Asia)
>>
>> Exactly! However, retroflex is a more well defined term IME. For
>> example,
>> I've never come across the French uvular trill, uvular voiced fricative
> &
>> uvular approximant pronunciations of /r/ described as 'retroflex', tho
>> they have been (and are) called 'rhotics'. Indeed, I'm finding it
>> difficult to see (or hear) what the trilled [r] of Italian & Welsh has in
>> common with the uvular approximant common in modern northern French,
>> other
>> than that both are voiceless.
>
> Voiceless?
OOPS!! Probably the worst typo I've made on the list {deep blush}
I mean *VOICED*
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