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Re: LOTR (in RP?) on the BBC

From:John Cowan <cowan@...>
Date:Monday, January 14, 2002, 12:06
And Rosta scripsit:

> I had mixed feelings about Sean > Bean as Boromir -- splendid casting, and speaking in his native > non-RP accent, which is always good to hear -- but that then curiously > suggests that Minas Tirth = Sheffield, and Gondor = West Yorkshire...
(protrudes front teeth, reverts to Iggerant American) Gosh, I didn't notice that... If I had to defend it, I would point out that Boromir was said not to be particularly Nuumenorian, genetically.... I understand that there are Ozite families were some members speak Broad and others Standard, and then families where some speak Cultivated and others Standard (Nick Nicholas is speaking more and more Cultivated these days, possibly as a counterweight to Americanization.) We shall see whether B.'s father and brother speak RP.
> On balance I think I prefer that accentwise parallels between Westron > and English be played down.
IIRC the Hobbit accent is Gloustershire, probably a bit watered down, except of course for Merry who is using his own accent too.
> I wonder what Rohan accents will be like...
Well, JRRT advised that they too be represented as speaking "the best Minas Tirith", and points out that the King's mother was from Gondor, and the Common Speech was actually the language of his (birth) family. Perhaps, he says, they should speak it more slowly and sonorously. The use of OE for Rohirric is actually a bit odd, since OE > ModE, but Rohirric not > Westron. German might have been nearer to the mark (:-)): a related, not mutually intelligible, generally more conservative language. Shippey points out a number of rather odd features about the OE used for Rohirric: it is in fact not standard Wessex OE, but reconstructed Mercian. In particular, the name "Mercia" is latinized < "Maerc", the standard OE name for that part of the country: but Mercian itself lacked this umlaut, and its speakers would have said they were from the "Marc". -- John Cowan Please leave your values | Check your assumptions. In fact, at the front desk. | check your assumptions at the door. --sign in Paris hotel | --Miles Vorkosigan


And Rosta <a-rosta@...>