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Re: Another Orthography Question

From:Frank George Valoczy <valoczy@...>
Date:Thursday, November 19, 1998, 8:21
On Thu, 19 Nov 1998, Christophe Grandsire wrote:

> At 18:43 18/11/98 -0800, you wrote: > >Okay. I'm back active after a long time. > > > >I've begun wotking on a new language, whose Anglicised name is Quryak. > >I'm developing the phonology tright now, but I need some help. I want to > >know what are the IPA/SAMPA for (IE, how to show in ASCII) > > > >nasalised vowels > > I think using a tilda ~ before or after the vowel is the best way to > do it (just choose a place and keep it).
That could work
> > >o-slash (computer, how?) > > On my old computer, the 0 (zero) was just like that. But I think it > disappeared. If you make an HTML file, I think such a character already > exists (I saw it but don't use it). >
I know how to do it in HTML; my problem is for my e-mail.
> >inverted lower case e (again, how to show in ascii)(NOT schwa!) > > It's not the schwa? So what is it? >
IPA number 397...called "reversed E"
> >glottal stop > > Generally ' is used. > > >ejective k > >ejective t > >ejective p > > What I see is generally k', t' and p'. But the apostroph has so many > uses that it can be the worst solution.
Yeah I figured that...is there IPA for it?
> > >unreleased k > >unreleased t > >unreleased p > >clicks: Zulu x > >click: Zulu q > > A question related to clicks: what are they? (I mean, how are they > pronounced? Nobody has ever been able to explain me exactly what clicks were). >
You know when you make the "cluck" sound, with your tongue? That's Zulu q. The other one, I can't describe how to do it, I just know (learned from a native speaker of Xhosa)
> > That's an idea: try using numbers to modify the letters (it seems > odd but after a while we can get used to everything). The main advantage is > that you have 9 symbols (I don't count 0 (zero) that is to much like O). > Another idea: use capitalized and small letters with different values (like > in Klingon). Even if your system won't be universal, just prevent before > that you're using a special system (it's just two or three lines to add).
That's an idea. I've been toying with kk tt pp for ejectives; but I can't figure the unreleased out. For glottal stop I'll probably use 7 Thanks for your suggestions. -------ferke Ferenc Gy. Valoczy Es to pilni'gi noliedzu! Personal page: http://www.extra.hu/svejk/index.html Tu-134 page: http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Museum/7482/ railways page: http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/3976/ conlang page: http://members.tripod.com/~tuonela/ Uralica: http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/3259/ Zaradi politicnega delovanja je oblast v letu 1982 razpustila: Svobodo (Laibach)