Re: /k/ in i.t.a.
|From:||Ray Brown <ray.brown@...>|
|Date:||Tuesday, November 9, 2004, 6:57|
On Monday, November 8, 2004, at 01:57 , Muke Tever wrote:
> On Mon, 8 Nov 2004 13:09:55 +0100, Jean-François Colson <fa597525@SKYNET.
> BE> wrote:
>> Hi all
>> I see that in Pitman Initial Teaching Alphabet, which is a phonemic
Not phonemic in the strict sense. See below.
>> different characters
>> are used for the c of cat and the k of key.
>> Is there any difference between those characters?
Nope - both denote /k/.
>> If not, how are they used?
|c| is used where /k/ is spelled |c| in the traditional spelling and |k|
is used where traditional spelling has |k| :)
> It is likely that the system is not two-way phonemic (i.e., one grapheme
> per sound and one sound per grapheme) but just one-way phonemic (one sound
> per letter).
> This is sensible for an alphabet that is used to teach people
> to read.
Yes, the system was not developed as "yet another reformed English
spelling", otherwise some things would surely have been done differently.
It was as strictly an _initial teaching alphabet_ in order to ease the
transition into the more difficult un-phonemic traditional spelling.
> Notice also that the sound /z/ is spelled two different ways,
> with a regular "z" for /z/ spelled "z" and with a reversed "z" (or, if you
> like, an "s" with sharp corners) for /z/ spelled "s".
> (Indeed, on the ITA webpage under "what is ITA" it says "The alphabet
> adheres closely to traditional orthography. The symbols are lowercase.
> Certain conventional English spellings have been retained such as the c
> and k, which have the same sound.)
Yep. It was very much in vogue some in IIRC the 1970s & possibly 80s. But
it seems to have fallen out of favor. I think it was found that it
actually confused some kids as the transition got made rather than helped
Anything is possible in the fabulous Celtic twilight,
which is not so much a twilight of the gods
as of the reason." [JRRT, "English and Welsh" ]