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Re: /k/ in i.t.a.

From:Ray Brown <ray.brown@...>
Date:Wednesday, November 10, 2004, 19:02
On Wednesday, November 10, 2004, at 09:40 , Jean-François Colson wrote:

> On Tuesday, November 09, 2004 7:56 AM, Ray Brown wrote:
[snip]
>> Not phonemic in the strict sense. See below. > > I hadn't read all the available documentation, but yall're right: that's > not a two-way phonemic > alphabet. > In fact I was making a Keyman virtual keyboard for the QuickScript > alphabet and I took the same > scheme for a few other phonemic alphabets. So my question was: "Do some > dialects make a slight > phoneTic distinction between the /k/ of cat and the /k/ of key?"
I imagine practically all speakers make a slight _phonetic_ difference, just as all speakers of French almost certainly make a _phonetic_ difference between the /k/ of 'qui' and 'quatre'. But there is *no* phonemic difference in any dialect. If you were devising a phonemic spelling foe English, then you must use only one symbol for /k/.
>> |c| is used where /k/ is spelled |c| in the traditional spelling and |k| >> is used where traditional spelling has |k| :) > > Of course. And which spelling is used when /k/ is spelt |qu|?
I have forgotten - probably qu-ligature. [snip]
>> >> Yep. It was very much in vogue some in IIRC the 1970s & possibly 80s. But >> it seems to have fallen out of favor. I think it was found that it >> actually confused some kids as the transition got made rather than helped >> them. > > IIRC I read it has been experienced during the 60's.
Yep - that's probably right. I was out by one decade: used in the 1960s & possibly 1970s. Ray =============================================== http://home.freeuk.com/ray.brown ray.brown@freeuk.com =============================================== Anything is possible in the fabulous Celtic twilight, which is not so much a twilight of the gods as of the reason." [JRRT, "English and Welsh" ]