Re: OT: Feminism (Was: OT: reality (wasRe: Atlantean))

Quoting Axiem <axiem@...>:

> IMLE? I don't know that acronym (In My L E?).
In My Limited Experience.

Relates to IME (I My Experience) much like IMHO (In My Humble Opinion) to IMO
(same sans humble). Never seen an experiential counterpart to IMNSHO (In My
Not So Humble Opinion) - IMVEE (In my Very Extensive Experience) perhaps?

> > An interesting half-exception was a teacher who held that, ideally,
> society
> > should give men and women equal influence, but before that could be
> > instituted, we need a few thousand years of matriarchy to nullify the
> effect
> > of the patriarchy of the last few millennia. Unfortunately, she combined
> some
> > rather more disturbing opinions with a complete lack of a sense of humour,
> so
> > having a discussion with her was rather depressing.
>
> That's too bad. And my thought on matriarchies? "Give a woman an inch, and
> she thinks she's a ruler". Okay, not my real opinion, but some
> (misogynistic) humor nonetheless. Your teacher perhaps has a point, but I
> don't think a matriarchy would solve anything. I think it would cause severe
> problems, because you also have an entire class of males (who are now
> "inferior") who look back at the history where they were superior. I would
> predict massive civil disturbances in such an instance. Either that or a
> tyrannical Big Brother-esque government. I don't personally like either.
The perhaps most absurd thing about it is the very idea of deciding big
changes in society millennia in advance.

> > > Misandrist? I haven't heard that, and can't parse the root "and". What
> I've
> > > usually heard is "misanthrope" (person who hates people) and
> "misogynist"
> > > (person who hates women). You mean person who hates men? As I recall in
> > > Contact, the main character agonized over that word's nonexistence.
> >
> > The root's 'andr', from Greek _aner_, gen _andros_, "man". I seem to
> recall
> > Modern Greek has mangled it a bit. It's indeed meant to denote someone who
> > hates men.
>
> Ah. I figured, I just don't know Greek. But if "andro" is the root for
> "man", is "androgeny" "man-form"? And is that "andros" man as in male, or
> man as in human?
"Androgeny"? I don't know that word, and AHD doesn't recognize it either. It
would, however, have to be an abstract based on words like
_androgen_ "(hormone that) causes development of masculine characteristics",
so it's "man" + "gen-" as in cause or origin.

If you meant "androgyny", that's simply _andro-_ "man" + _gyne_ "woman", plus
the abstract suffix.

> English needs a word that means a person who hates males. In my opinion.
You could just calque Swedish _manshatare_ as "manhater" or so. But I think
something on the same stylistic level as "misogynist" is to be desired, so I
guess I'm going to continue using "misandrist" till it catches on or someone
presents me with a better alternative.

                                                   Andreas

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